Showing posts with label Burnout. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Burnout. Show all posts

Saturday, November 16, 2024

Kelly Turnbulls favourite top burnout hits

Memory sketch without ref, looking like a fire-pixie.

I must catalogue Kelly on xwitter before that ship sinks. I remember that as a child. 

Learning to not work for abusive burnout-schedules is part of the process onto being a

"Animation has a huge problem with “cool” shows involving popular IPs at trendy studios treating their staff like absolute garbage, because they’re banking on you feeling so privileged to work there that you’re willing to let them juice you until there’s nothing left

If you start up on a production and every artist (particularly board artists) not in leadership positions like directors and supervisors are under 30 that’s a HUUUUUGE Red Flag🔺🔺🔺

Basically it says a) they’re specifically targeting young, hungry people who are less likely to push back if they’re being asked to do unreasonable things because they’re insecure about their careers and b) no one with commitments like kids and mortgages trusts their schedule

(Note: Unreasonable schedules and work-loads)

“Board Driven” shows especially, as they exist with the current TAG contract, are the biggest con in Hollywood. Board artists are expected to to the ENTIRE job of a writer in addition to the entire job of a board artist with no extra time or compensation.

I say this as someone who LOVES to write; they bank on ambitious, hungry young people who want to prove they can do it all, willing to do at least two jobs (but also often the job of a designer to create all the characters and environments that will be needed)

Out of curiosity I looked up WGA minimums and found that if kid’s cartoons were covered by WGA and artists on Board Driven shows recognized as writers, they would have to pay me more to write an 11 minute episode script than TAG makes them pay me to write AND board it."


"The last time I worked on a board-driven show, the more artists bent to meet unreasonable demands, the more was demanded. I left burnt out, demoralized, and unsure of how I would ever work in animation again. I told my friends “I feel like cartoons don’t live in me anymore

The things expected of story artists, for no extra compensation, are atrocious. I keep seeing people even younger than me say things like “I’m 26, I can’t work fast enough to keep up with new kids these days”, any industry that makes people feel this is predatory, simple as that

It’s an industry taking advantage of being “a cool job” to bring in people full of enthusiasm and juice everything out of them with an industrial press, then throw the husks away. And the most marginalized groups will always be the ones with the most to lose in that system.

Anyway this is all to say please support #StoryCraftUnite and #NewDeal4Animation animation is producing the most-watched content on streaming services, we kept the wheels of the entertainment industry turning through the pandemic, our jobs shouldn’t run us like rented mules
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(response to the abuse practices of the spider-verse abuses)

"People in the comments are saying “well if treating a crew like this gets results this good, then we should celebrate it!” But I PROMISE you a crew is always going to give you the best version of what they’re capable of when they’re happy and feel like their work is being valued

Like however good something may have turned out despite the crew waiting for the eagle to come pick out their liver every day, it can be EVEN BETTER if your crew isn’t in constant anticipation that their sandcastle is about to be kicked over.

It’s not just crunch, there’s a great quote I heard once that was something like “people don’t burn out because of hard work, they burn out when they feel like their hard work doesn’t matter”. Endless reworks with no end in sight makes a job feel like a Sisyphean nightmare."

"I saw a similar discourse happen when I said Big Mouth treated me better than any other show I’d worked on and people were like “well if treating artists like people makes shows like Big Mouth we should abuse them more”, but I’ll tell you what actually happens-

If the cool, high art projects treat their artists like garbage, those artists burn out and go to the jobs that treat them well. You don’t get better art from abused artists, you get the best, most experienced artists avoiding those projects after they’ve been burned

Cool projects aren’t made better by bad conditions. They have bad conditions because they know that by virtue of being cool and desirable, they won’t have a hard time finding more bodies to throw into the pulp mill when if they grind up all the ones they already have."



Wednesday, November 13, 2024

Vain glory oxymoron

There is the worst schedule in the world, within the libertarian dystopia, it could be one's own.

Still thinking about how vain-glory this Stockholm condition to capitalism is, Insecure status roles lead to lying about work-schedules that and the exploitation of passion an industry addicted to mass-market advertising.

What a way to indicate as little passion and to creative industries.

A pull the ladder behind oneself.

Greg Capullo has been... lying about his work schedule, and there are others who lie about their work-hours too. Only with my sensitivity with a physical coach and my own.

These syllabuses of others life will never translate into your own, regardless of the truth. Should not degrade into Tik-tok Clip farming, edited for SEO.

Professionalism is whatever they want it to mean for them, including getting dominion.

Since then, He may have back-peddled, yet this advice will all crop up again like the Bulgarian training split, it refuses to die because sex sells.

‪Colin Spacetwinks‬ ‪@spacetwinks.bsky.social‬
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"to this day still cannot wrap my head around direct market comics pros and them not just being relentlessly exploited, but frequently being eager about that exploitation, proud of their exploitation, instead of once ever thinking "the way our bosses treat us is ****** up"


this Justice League America page by Kyle Baker came out in May, 1991. It is 33 years old and you still see comics pros enthusiastically acting like this


the only group of creators that i think ever act this ******* eager to get ****** over instead of acting in their own interest against their bosses and publishers is like. Y.A. fiction writers

*** still remembering when BOOM! only paying $50 a page for artists for awhile was *a publicly known thing* and plenty of comic artists were still going "yeah i'll take that job". you'd get better pay for far less work doing a handful of SFW fursona headshots on a twitch stream

comic pros are so frequently a very strange combo of being incredibly prideful but simultaneously having very little self-respect or ability to act in their self-interest"


‪Matt E. Reals‬ ‪@innerpartisan.bsky.social‬
"You'll find the exact same attitude with many people working in creative industries, like animators and video game devs. Stockholm syndrome for capitalism coupled with insecure narcissism for the own status, I'd say."


Cheryl Lynn Eaton
‪@cheryllynneaton.bsky.social‬
Sorry to log back on and jump into being depressing, but...for what? 1995 is not returning. You are not going to become Capullo by sacrificing friends and hobbies. You cannot become a rich man via comics anymore. And you don't have to sacrifice your health or a social life to be a great artist.
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Imagine breaking your back and stressing yourself out for poverty. Baby, that is INSANE. You have a better chance getting rich with scratch-offs. I am so serious.
If you love comics? Make comics. Make them on the side as a hobby. Do not expect to become rich from them. Yes, even if you are incredibly talented. And fast. Also, the industry doesn't give a **** about you. Because NO industry gives a **** about employees.
And I'm not saying this to be mean, but to prevent another me. Big-name creators giving advice on breaking into comics is like a Boomer who bought his million-dollar house in 1974 for $20,000 giving real estate advice.
You go to a Capullo or Lee for advice on the artistic process. Perspective, shading, breaking down a stellar action sequence. They are BRILLIANT. Don't go to them (or ANY '90s/'00s star) for advice on how to get rich or get on Batman in 2024. They don't know.
100% this. Their skill is largely (and will likely remain) unmatched. They are artists in every sense of the word. But they do not know - and can never know - what it is like to start in their industry *now*.